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April 10, 2008


There is a cruelty-free silk brand called Ahimsa Silk. They wait until the moths have left their cocoons, and then produce silk from them. The moths get to fly away and live their full life cycle freely. I'm also Vegan, but i'm considering purchasing some silk from them. I believe it should be allowed, as no animals are killed or restricted to live out there full life.

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That is not necessarily true. Only a small percentage of the moths are allowed to hatch and fly off into the wild and lay their eggs, the rest are killed for production of regular reeled silk. Also, the moths that are allowed to hatch almost immediately lay eggs which the farmers are not able to feed because there are so many, so the larvae that hatch simply starve and die, or they are sold for food as they are considered a delicacy in some parts of Asia.

You do realize they're just exploiting your lifestyle, right?

Who is this "they" you speak of Ropeh?

Are you kidding me? I've always thought ppeta and the vegan movement was off its rodker a bit if it did have its heart in the right place but this is insane.
BTW you're idiots to believe this since silk thread can only come from an unbroken coccoon. You'd have to sort out millions of half inch long threads ind ividually if you allowed the worm to break out of its crysalis. Then to spin them together into longer thread one at a time, and so on. It just isn't worth it unless you're willing to pay several thousand dollars for a shirt or scarf. Its idiocy

Every time a vegan chooses not to eat an animal it just leaves an extra animal for me to use to clothe myself with then eat. Sometimes I even eat 3 extra animals for every one you don't eat.

Well, this old old post obviously got linked at some charming site. Welcome :)

Incredulous - The broken coccoons do produce short threads, these are not sorted individually, they are fed onto a spool in clumps which produces a yarn (the same process is used to spin clumps of cotton, hemp, or wool into yarn) instead of producing a thin, continuous thread like regular reeled silk. The yarn is then used to make a dense, thick, nubby fabric which is completely unlike traditional silk fabrics. It is still not completely cruelty free, however the process is more natural than producing man made silk immitation cloth which is extremely polluting to the environment so overall it is more environmentally friendly but is not cruelty free. So, if you want something "silky" I guess you have to pick your poison. Otherwise stick to organic cotton, hemp, wool, tencel, some ecologically produced bamboo cloth (most is produced by very environmentally damaging proceedures), or vintage clothing.

"Because indeed the silk worms die to clothe us." - i laughed so hard. You serious ? If yes, than you are out of your mind. Get a real cause ! Go Africa for instance.

Cotton Tapestries (gee, that's such an interesting name) you have no idea how many and which causes I support. So, why don't you tell us all about yours?

Seriously your argument is such a straw man.

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